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Venomdoc · Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 8:35 pm Post subject:

What are the local tissue effects looking like now? There may indeed be a bit of localised tissue death but it shouldn't be too bad. Where are you located?

Certainly the most full on B. dendrophila bite that I've heard of.

Cheers
B
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WW · Taipan Joined: 03 Nov 2003 Posts: 616 Location: UK

Any idea where the dendrophila was from? There is evidence of variation in venom composition in this species, so it would be good to have an idea of where your specimen came from.

Cheers,

WW

stuartdouglas · Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 11:39 pm Post subject:

I'm located in the UK. She's a dendrophila dendrophila subspecies, other than that, I have no idea where she originated from. As for the effects, the discolouration and blistering is spreading, the swelling appeared to go down somewhat overnight, but is now increasing again and the intermittent dizziness, sleepiness, nausea and "spaced out" feelings have returned, and the thumping headache has not decreased at all. My pupils still appear quite dilated and bright light is uncomfortable. As soon as my camera batteries have recharged I'll post pictures of the current state of my hand

as of 14:00 today

Elec · Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 2:56 am Post subject:

offtopic:

Good choice of guitar there Stuart! Smile

I have a red wolfgang special right nere next to me. Absolutely my favourite guitar.

Jelmer · Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 3:21 am Post subject:

Wow, This really was a nasty bite.....Worse Boiga bite in the hobby that I know of...

Jelmer
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qualitybredreptiles · Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 1:37 am Post subject:

how are things coming along??
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nivea · Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 4:07 am Post subject:

Bryan - is this comparable with B.irregularis, worse? etc.
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Venomdoc · Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 11:45 am Post subject:

Venoms are pretty much the same. Its a simple matter of how much gets chewed in. Some pretty spectacular bites have happened with the oversized ones in Guam.

Cheers
B
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Bio21 Institute,
University of Melbourne,
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qualitybredreptiles · Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 12:36 pm Post subject:

so what treatment is provided for such bites.

is it just antibiotics to fightoff secondary infection, or are painkillers provided and if so, are blood thining painkillers acceptable?
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Venomdoc · Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 1:45 pm Post subject:

Hi mate

Painkillers have to be used with caution due to potential cross-reactivity with the neurotoxins (which block the post-synaptic acetylcholine receptor).

There aren't any effects on the coagulation system so asprin is OK.

Antibiotics for secondary infections definately for pronounced local tissue damage like that.

Cheers
B
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Bio21 Institute,
University of Melbourne,
Australia
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Faith (noun). Belief that does not rest on logical proof or material evidence
Science (noun). The observation, identification, description, experimental investigation and theoretical explanation of phenomena. Such activities restricted to a class of natural phenomena.